Llandybie councillors delay decision on turbine (From South Wales Guardian)

This is a prime example of profit for one person being more important than the detrimental effect on the community. The comments about 35 jobs are totally irrelevant - these people are employed by the existing fuel distribution business and will not be affected by this proposed turbine. Any installation and maintenance will be done by a third party.

The turbine will destroy the tranquillity and views from the adjacent footpaths, not to mention the noise for adjacent dwellings that are only 300 metres away.

Now there is a related application from Western Power to install 11,000 volt overhead power cables to connect the turbine to existing power cables in Penygroes, further affecting the views from the footpaths towards the Brecon Beacons.

The original application contained an assessment with photos taken from remote locations, showing the turbine as viewed from a considerable distance. What about the effect on the immediate location and residents?

Just to rub salt into the wound, remember that as tax payers and electric customers we are paying a large subsidy to enable the operator of this turbine to make a large profit at our expense!

it would be fair that a turbine would only partially sustain jobs. or should i say costs? how much of an accurate percentage the figures will be? nobody knows...except the anemometer figures gathered so far. not forgetting a turbine will shut down at 56mph, and some days the wind isn't blowing at all or just not enough wind. without going into detail, it is common sense a turbine can only be 100% efficient operating at 55mph sliding down to 0% at 0mph.
it would be interesting to find out exactly what the wind speed fluctuations information they have gathered and the wattage those figures would have produced.

i do not see a mention of possible house value depreciation costs mentioned above. not many people would buy a house so close to a windturbine - so the seller is stuck in a situation they may never get out of. the lower end of caerbryn terrace is taking the brunt (even if a new application for a shorter turbine has been submitted).

as for flicker, that can be debatable. as for the sound, that is debatable too.. people can debate and discuss endlessly about the possibilities of this and that and what kind of effect it will have. take gwyddgrug for example - did anybody know exactly what they were going to get during their application and some ended up with noise issues almost straight away. and two years later the company analyst said he didn't think that noise would keep up at night. but the terrain is different over there at blaengerwn farm. i call it by the original name because alltwalis have been unfairly labelled with the windfarm association.

as for the theory of helping to save the earth and get paid for it at the same time through subs. do not be suprised if that single windturbine will cost £1.25million in total by the time everything has been factored in. and i guess everybody already knows where the bulk of it goes to the main investor. most people are pawns in this game and it will not be the investor who comes worst off.

i would not only be concerned about night time noise. i would have been concerend with the evening noise as well. and early morning. in theory with a bit of luck, hopefully a noise channel will miss the concerned dwellings by travelling over the terraces.
but noise is not the only issue, is it? audible is the swishing and whooshing. inaudible 'noise' is a different situation.

the only thing they won't avoid is having something that wasn't there before suddenly thrust into their view and become an eyesore. the lower end of the street won't see it, only the top half. and i would not be happy if a house price artificially dropped by 5%, or in some other cases nationwide 20% or more. or can't even sell at all.

if a worst situation arose and somebody could no longer bare things, who would they actually sell it to? depending on a location in the uk, some may find find it improbable to sell or sell at a loss. but, if there is a noise issue, people do not like to talk about it or won't talk because it may put off potential buyers.
besides that, if someone had to leave their home because of something beyond their control, does create an unbearble situation, even more unbearable than the turbine itself.
unless someone manages to sell it to a windturbine enthusiast who doesn't mind them at all.

at least mr davies reduced the turbine down to 55m in tower height. unfortunately that only reduces the noise issue minimally. if anything, it may make things worse because a higher tower could divert a sound channel over houses rather onto it. and could cause a greater flicker problem should one arise. 22metres from a distance is not much noticeable.

actually, i saw the glare from the farm 300 metres away coming from the windscreen of the vehicle while standing at the lane entrance where the gate is..

so if i can see them, can they see the blade glare 150m further up?

there would be some loss of amenity surrounding the footpath going around the site. once again, the factor of having something that wasn't there before comes back into the equation. the access road will casue an amount of disruption. once there was peace, then it was disruption and disgruntlement, and then it simmers down after a few years, some people may put up with it reluctantly, some may like it, some may take a dislike to it or it escalates into a situation if there any issues surrounding the original concerns.

and those concerns are genuine. as the other councillor mentioned, the citizens have to be backed up too?....

do the council have an obligation to protect the jobs? isn't that politicizing wind turbines when they mention that? then again, it has been mentioned that the turbine won't safeguard all 35 jobs, where is the onus now?