Mynydd y Betws windfarm operators deny breaking law

A SPOKESMAN for the controversial Mynydd y Betws windfarm has rejected a local councillor’s claims that Celtic Energy Renewables are breaking the law.

Commenting on windfarm lorries traversing the Betws mountain road, Cllr Annette Price said they were breaching regulations by not having any tyre-washing facilities.

And she also maintained that a lights system was required where windfarm lorries were crossing the road. But Rob Fellows, of Celtic Energy Renewables, insisted there was a tyrewashing facility at the site’s main access.

“We’ve been fully compliant with all conditions from day one,” he said. “As for having a lights system on the road, I’m afraid Cllr Price is wrong again.

“When you have something as detailed as a windfarm you simply have to conform to the most stringent guidelines.”

Betws councillors -– who have been constantly at loggerheads with the windfarm operators – say lorries are continuing to damage roadside verges.

Cllr Anne Sizmur said a county council officer had told her she had every right to complain, but added that he hoped a Welsh Assembly grant could resolve the issue in the next financial year.

Alderman Arnallt James revealed he had recently visited the windfarm site and had been pleasantly surprised.

“What I saw was neat and tidy and had been fenced off,”

he said.

“I would suggest that councillors should raise their concerns with the county council’s enforcement officer and get him to visit the site,”

added Mr Fellows.

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3:24pm Sat 21 Apr 12

Huw Thomas says...

I hope they flatten the roadside verges. When I was a boy we were able to park on the mountain and have picnics. Over the years the local farmers have blocked the old roadside ditches and built up the sides to prevent parking. You can't even pull over and enjoy the view.
I hope they flatten the roadside verges. When I was a boy we were able to park on the mountain and have picnics. Over the years the local farmers have blocked the old roadside ditches and built up the sides to prevent parking. You can't even pull over and enjoy the view. Huw Thomas
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7:22pm Sat 21 Apr 12

someguyfromwales@yahoo.co.uk says...

councillor price is correct.
the concrete mixers are entering via the access near cwmgors and some of them are actually leaving the site near the scotch pine side. some turn right heading towards maesquarre road. and the others turn left heading up the gower way.

hanson lorries - white and green drum. says hanson on the mixer

so, where does this leave the company now?????
councillor price is correct. the concrete mixers are entering via the access near cwmgors and some of them are actually leaving the site near the scotch pine side. some turn right heading towards maesquarre road. and the others turn left heading up the gower way. hanson lorries - white and green drum. says hanson on the mixer so, where does this leave the company now????? someguyfromwales@yahoo.co.uk
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7:36pm Sat 21 Apr 12

someguyfromwales@yahoo.co.uk says...

my god, when i frequently go up there it looks a right mess. why have they cut up so much to create a track?

as for the fencing, well that is laughable as the impression i get a free flow for walkers is not achievable because of the layout. you keep on becoming enclosed all the time. fence off the bits they nedd but do keep the rest open for others.

the cement lorries leaving the site did not appear to have a wheel wash. they just left willy nilly. maybe there is no wheel wash over at that end.

the company have not been fully compliant, have they?

as for the verges, the company haven't exactly been that good about it, from what i see is quite a mess.

just hope they don't start taking earth away from the site and putting it into landfill. who knows what they will do next, take away earth that contains old stones and any relics?

maybe mr james should enter the site via grenig road and look around there. they could have done more to reduce the impact - that's all i have to say on the matter. i know verges are there for a reason, drainage channels have to be created for the access lanes but did they just have to dig the trenches any old how? have they dug up more than is necessay? only the council planning officer can sort this out, and go up there with a tape measure and check every single inch of the place
my god, when i frequently go up there it looks a right mess. why have they cut up so much to create a track? as for the fencing, well that is laughable as the impression i get a free flow for walkers is not achievable because of the layout. you keep on becoming enclosed all the time. fence off the bits they nedd but do keep the rest open for others. the cement lorries leaving the site did not appear to have a wheel wash. they just left willy nilly. maybe there is no wheel wash over at that end. the company have not been fully compliant, have they? as for the verges, the company haven't exactly been that good about it, from what i see is quite a mess. just hope they don't start taking earth away from the site and putting it into landfill. who knows what they will do next, take away earth that contains old stones and any relics? maybe mr james should enter the site via grenig road and look around there. they could have done more to reduce the impact - that's all i have to say on the matter. i know verges are there for a reason, drainage channels have to be created for the access lanes but did they just have to dig the trenches any old how? have they dug up more than is necessay? only the council planning officer can sort this out, and go up there with a tape measure and check every single inch of the place someguyfromwales@yahoo.co.uk
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10:54am Sun 22 Apr 12

Meirion says...

The people can sort this out by asking the relevant Authorities to act on their duty to serve the public.
Are we seeing another example here of those paid from the public purse to uphold their public and statutory duty drawing money from the public purse under false pretences.
Furthermore, Would we be in this position today had all the relevant bodies / agencies acted as they should have?
The people can sort this out by asking the relevant Authorities to act on their duty to serve the public. Are we seeing another example here of those paid from the public purse to uphold their public and statutory duty drawing money from the public purse under false pretences. Furthermore, Would we be in this position today had all the relevant bodies / agencies acted as they should have? Meirion
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3:40pm Mon 23 Apr 12

someguyfromwales@yahoo.co.uk says...

i haven't a clue what a welsh assembly grant has to do with anything, unless it means a grant to tidy up the verges.
if it was the windfarm lorries that actually caused the damage to the verges, or if the windfarm company created damaged verges by not doing a very good job at any location, they have to pay for it. but of course they would say it wasn't their lorry that caused some damage on maesquarre road, it must have been someone else ;-) they verges they created on the common are quite abysmal. if the council planing officer thinks its ok, then there is not a lot that can be done, it's his decision and opinion to determine if something is only just basically acceptable (meaning to the layman it looks messy but it will do).

there is evidence of one damage to near a verge towards the top of grenig road, but i cannot say that this was caused by a lorry. possibly a tractor but that's the only one i noticed. if there was a pattern i would be concerned

the county council officer was aware of the unauthorised exit when they were coming down maesquarre road eventually entering ammanford. ammanford town council knew about it and betws knew about it.

could this be a case of the left hand doing something different?

maybe we can expect to hear more on this story soon!!!???
i haven't a clue what a welsh assembly grant has to do with anything, unless it means a grant to tidy up the verges. if it was the windfarm lorries that actually caused the damage to the verges, or if the windfarm company created damaged verges by not doing a very good job at any location, they have to pay for it. but of course they would say it wasn't their lorry that caused some damage on maesquarre road, it must have been someone else ;-) they verges they created on the common are quite abysmal. if the council planing officer thinks its ok, then there is not a lot that can be done, it's his decision and opinion to determine if something is only just basically acceptable (meaning to the layman it looks messy but it will do). there is evidence of one damage to near a verge towards the top of grenig road, but i cannot say that this was caused by a lorry. possibly a tractor but that's the only one i noticed. if there was a pattern i would be concerned the county council officer was aware of the unauthorised exit when they were coming down maesquarre road eventually entering ammanford. ammanford town council knew about it and betws knew about it. could this be a case of the left hand doing something different? maybe we can expect to hear more on this story soon!!!??? someguyfromwales@yahoo.co.uk
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