Protesters backed by council in fight against new homes in Ammanford (From South Wales Guardian)
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Protesters backed by council in fight against new homes in Ammanford
8:00am Wednesday 11th July 2012 in News
DEMONSTRATION: Protestors make their feelings known in front of the planning application site.
ONE of Ammanford’s few remaining “green lungs”
must not be allowed to disappear forever beneath an estate of 16 new houses.
That is the belief of Ammanford town councillors who have resolved to come out fighting against the plans, which have shocked residents of Myddynfych.
They say the outline planning application for 16 homes on land adjacent to Lletyrdderwen threatens “a haven” for wildlife that is also popular with children and voted to register their opposition to the development.
Cllr Colin Evans told colleagues at last week’s monthly meeting that the site in question was prone to flooding and the fact it was elevated suggested possible privacy issues.
“This field between Myddynfych and Brynmawr is one of the only bits of ‘green lung’ we have left - communities need them,” he said.
He added that the proposal, which he felt could lead to future developments, had generated a huge amount of debate and controversy and that he would call on the county council’s planning committee to make a site visit.
Cllr Andrew Lewis claimed access to the site was inadequate for heavy lorries. “Let’s not forget that this is a council estate with a lot of children running about,” he added.
Cllr Jonathan Davies said he had heard residents express constant road traffic concerns while out canvassing for the May elections.
“It would be desecration if they built here,” said Cllr Irena Hopkins. “It would spoil the whole area.”
Mum-of-five Tracey Curtis, who has drawn up a 140-name protest petition, said locals were “heartbroken”
at the prospect of losing more green space.
“To damage or destroy any of this would have a devastating impact on the local environment,” she said.
“The green in front of the field where the proposed development would take place is an area where children play, people walk their dogs and the local community get to know one another - something that is rare in a lot of communities nowadays.”
A county council spokesman said the application was still in the consultation period and it was not yet known when it would go before the planning committee.
Comments(7)
johnsouthwales
says...
6:57pm Wed 11 Jul 12
thenshire.gov.uk/age
ndas/eng/PLAC2008061
9/REP03.HTM#P554_343
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AMENDMENT TO PREVIOUS APPLICATION (E/16691 APPROVED 31.01.2008) TO CHANGE TO HOUSE TYPES OF 45 UNITS OF OUT THE 93 PREVIOUSLY APPROVED AT LAND AT MYDDYNFYCH FARM, BONLLWYN, AMMANFORD, CARMS
http://online.carmar
thenshire.gov.uk/eac
cessv2/pa-applicatio
nsummarybackground-p
ublic.aspx?Applicati
onnumber=E/18661
E/21668 CONSTRUCTION OF 28 RESIDENTIAL UNITS AND ASSOCIATED WORKS Full Granted 21/06/2012
johnsouthwales
says...
7:13pm Wed 11 Jul 12
16+28 is a medium increase.
93 is a large increase.
maybe 16 will not be so bad or 28 at a push, which won't interfere with the trees at the top and restrict the environment damage to a minimum.. but not 16 plus 28. they've surveyed the field for the 93 and that would interfere with the top.
johnsouthwales
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9:07pm Wed 11 Jul 12
http://online.carmar
thenshire.gov.uk/eac
cessv2/pa-applicatio
nsummary.aspx?applic
ationnumber=E/26726
when all the planning apps and building works gets all put together, it seems overwhelming even though they are in slightly different areas. heol marlais is away from heol llwyd and the myddynfych farm builds, there will be disruption regarding that work. and heol llwyd would get a bit of extra traffic because of heol marlais etc.
what else could happen here is that the narrow green area or some parts of it could be taken up to provide parking bays for the existing residents.
is there an assurance that the developer will not expand?
16 dwellings stretching all the way down behind the hedge.
it's quite a shame that they have to knock those trees down as they have been there for years. or build an access road curving around them? or an alternative enterance for each half? looking at the photo, in the background are many other trees
someguyfromwales@yahoo.co.uk
says...
7:33pm Thu 12 Jul 12
if it is quiet, why is the councillor saying - Cllr Jonathan Davies said he had heard residents express constant road traffic concerns.
16 houses may produce 16 extra cars - some may not even have any cars at all. then again if all 16 houses had 2 cars each and 100 cars passing a day at that point, add on 64 - making it a 64% increase. if 200 cars pass a day, 264 is 32% increase.
construction lorries will be a hindrance for a while, that would be inevitable and pose a concern. if the children are in school druring any works and there is a restriction on the application say lorries can only access between 9am and leave at 4pm. concrete lorries and all the materials that would be used.
if it is quiet enough at heol marlais, would the 16 houses warrant attention over for the playground at heol llwyd?
truth is nobody will know until the people move into the houses if they go ahead. as it would be anybody's guess how many extra cars there are going to be on the road whether from the heol llwyd park point of view or heol marlais's.
i would agree with one thing - why are they expanding into this area when there are other projects elsewhere on the go?
has myddynfych farm exhausted all it's land?
or why can't they build in another locations such as where the petrol garage used to be in wind st which apparently has been earmarked for future development? and other nooks and crannies.
the planning committee will see the works as temporary and that's never going to be an issue with them.
the problem with this is, that it is somebody's field - their property. maybe they would like to raise some income for themselves. after all, if myddynfych farm can sell land for development, why can't they?
but for them to get in, they have to have an enterance from their land which will have to encroach onto public land. meaning the green, and in doing so will mean the destruction of the trees featured in the picture.
would the council be as sentimental about the trees?
if the trees in the picture are the actual ones that have wildlife homes and nests, that will be an issue - but the council will just say if the wildlife can be rehoused, they will. if there is a bat colony, they will have to apply to the welsh assembly and surveyed.
if the wildlife is actually in the other surrounding trees in the distance, the council committee will take into account all aspects on whether a development will affect them.
and judging from the distance at the front to the back, they will say it won't affect.
any developer with respect would ensure nothing is disturbed, or kept to a bare minimum and relocation or new trees to compensate for a loss.
is 16 houses a devastation when it will take up about quarter of the land?
i would have used the word devastation if over half or all of the field is being built on. and that doesn't mean that the trees at the top will be taken down if that was the case.
construction always seems to bring in controversy whatever is being built.
i don't see councillor's having the same gusto against the amannford bypass which will bring in far more destruction than this single one field, so a balance has to be addressed, even though sites are basically restricted to one particular location. or even councillors keeping quiet when things such as the height of wilkinsons being built smack outside people's homes.
someguyfromwales@yahoo.co.uk
says...
8:02pm Thu 12 Jul 12
according to the report, any water flowing off the site would go into the watercourse next to the green. plus the site would have it's own drainage system to ensure rainfall from the site does not increase.
one recommendation is that occupiers are made to be aware of the general risk of flooding in the area.
who would buy a house that is prone to flooding?
there were previous applications on this site in the past according to the council history but they are not available for viewing online. one refused and the other from 2004 withdrawn
maybe with some luck, the application will get turned down and the trees get saved because of the flood risk on the site itself
Meirion
says...
10:39am Sat 14 Jul 12
I wonder how long this one has been sitting in the "in tray."
someguyfromwales@yahoo.co.uk says...
12:22pm Wed 11 Jul 12
cllr lewis mentions the children run around. i would strongly suggest to educate the children to stay off the roads whilst playing and learn about safety.
especially when that narrow green space in front of the planned which just happens to be right next to the existing road. and if children are playing on that stretch with cars coming by, doesn't that give a clue to the problem?
or is there some other agenda behind the protest?